tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post114712598820458702..comments2023-10-22T06:14:03.539-07:00Comments on ishush: comics 4Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147844049108453812006-05-16T22:34:00.000-07:002006-05-16T22:34:00.000-07:00Anon said: "The library analogy fails because libr...Anon said: "The library analogy fails because libraries don't typically have to worry about making rent every month, nor are they a for-profit endeavor."<BR/><BR/>Aubree makes a good point, and tis true -- libraries don't typically have to "make rent" on a month-to-month basis, but many do have to "make rent" on a quarter-to-quarter or fiscal-year basis... and this all comes down to taking risks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147818393253903722006-05-16T15:26:00.000-07:002006-05-16T15:26:00.000-07:00related is:comics 2 androle-playing games..."I thi...related is:<BR/><A HREF="" REL="nofollow" HTTP://ISHUSH.BLOGSPOT.COM/2006/04/COMICS-2.HTML>comics 2</A> and<BR/><A HREF="" REL="nofollow" HTTP://ISHUSH.BLOGSPOT.COM/2006/04/RPGS-IN-LIBRARY-AND-RPG-LIBRARY.HTML>role-playing games</A>...<BR/><BR/>"I think it's fun to be a paradigm mutant, with half your head in dead media, half your head in new (or imaginary) media. Keeps me keeping myself guessingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147815205597481332006-05-16T14:33:00.000-07:002006-05-16T14:33:00.000-07:00But is this a chicken and egg situation? What I me...But is this a chicken and egg situation? What I mean is, is your local shop that way because they set out to be that way, or did they become that because that's what their customers want?<BR/><BR/>Just as an example, I know my local store has attempted to support indy books to the tune of thousands of dollars lost in unsold inventory gathering dust. If you think that the mere presence of a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147753060376409522006-05-15T21:17:00.000-07:002006-05-15T21:17:00.000-07:00I've lived in many differnt cities and been a comi...I've lived in many differnt cities and been a comic fan for as long as I can remember. New York City was by far the wrose place to go to comic shops. All of the shops seemed to be the dank type that made me feel like I was God's gift to women after leaving the store. Houston, TX has its ups and downs, more downs than ups though. One place is nice and bright, fun atmosphere, but with little Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147243316165919172006-05-09T23:41:00.000-07:002006-05-09T23:41:00.000-07:00re: cliche...sometimes something reads like 'clich...re: cliche...<BR/><BR/>sometimes something reads like 'cliche' because it started the thing that becomes a cliche. I remember thinking Jules Verne's stuff was full of cliche when I first read it.<BR/><BR/>Comics are full of "bits of bizness" that get appropriated to other media -- then when a comic nods back to the original bit or seeks to refine or clarify it, the bit reads like cliche.<BR/><BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147229545127304532006-05-09T19:52:00.000-07:002006-05-09T19:52:00.000-07:00But, too, props for editors who are willing to bre...But, too, props for editors who are willing to break out of the literary canon and all. I should never post, because I can't keep an opinion in my head for more than 10 minutes. <BR/><BR/>LizAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147228905989171222006-05-09T19:41:00.000-07:002006-05-09T19:41:00.000-07:00Well, I could be told "Think on that" about the fa...Well, I could be told "Think on that" about the fact that <I>several</I> of those books are on what <I>two</I> people call the "100 best English-language novels from 1923 to the present" and I still wouldn't be convinced that the novels belong there. The list is a bit of a catch-all. I'd boot Gone With the Wind and White Teeth right off if we're talking about the <I>best 100 novels</I>. I'd add Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147222766997540942006-05-09T17:59:00.000-07:002006-05-09T17:59:00.000-07:00Read over the rant and the comments that followed....Read over the rant and the comments that followed. Most of what Liz commented on was the result of a lengthy and highly enjoyable discussion that began as a question of what kept public perception of comics as something other than "art." So, I've been thinking a lot about this as well, especially with the World Lit-by way of-graphic novel class I'm teaching this summer .<BR/><BR/>My own personal Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147197521176477192006-05-09T10:58:00.000-07:002006-05-09T10:58:00.000-07:00I'll chime in as a woman who likes comics but, yes...I'll chime in as a woman who likes comics but, yes, hates most comic book stores specifically because of that "ooh, look, there's a girl in the store" thing, and because they don't tend to stock or prominently display many of the comics I really like (e.g. Love and Rockets, Meat Cake, Optic Nerve, Kramer's Ergot, most of the Drawn & Quarterly artists). Now that I think about it, part of my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147180720912395672006-05-09T06:18:00.000-07:002006-05-09T06:18:00.000-07:00Great post. Personally, I read a few comics as a c...Great post. Personally, I read a few comics as a child (Marvel, DC, the "usual" stuff), then sort of got away from it. I am now getting back into reading comics, and discovering many wonderful literary graphic novels along the way (I am thinking things here like _Road to Perdition_ and even _Maus_). It's a genre full of possibilities that I find fascinating from the "traditional" superhero comicsA. Riverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446685621376561207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147154964450733392006-05-08T23:09:00.000-07:002006-05-08T23:09:00.000-07:00Yeah, one more thing, then IShush. Ha. Maybe comic...Yeah, one more thing, then IShush. Ha. <BR/><BR/>Maybe comics just doesn't have its own "rules" yet like art and lit do because people have been talking about art and lit so much longer than they've talked about comics. Maybe comics need to establish rules for themselves to function within. Or maybe they're there already and I just don't know what they are?<BR/><BR/>Glad you got me thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147154363085302152006-05-08T22:59:00.000-07:002006-05-08T22:59:00.000-07:00Also, comics are young, so a lot of this isn't rea...Also, comics are young, so a lot of this isn't really their fault, and it might not be fair of me to compare them to old mediums. And of course there aren't many mediums out there that are overshadowed by the "pop" aspect the way comics are, which is something, as you suggest, that'll have to be addressed. What I mean is, certainly Hollywood and Big Labels make the money, but independent films Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24671470.post-1147152975940662062006-05-08T22:36:00.000-07:002006-05-08T22:36:00.000-07:00Hm. All good points. I've been thinking about comi...Hm. All good points. I've been thinking about comics lately. I don't dig them much, either. I saw Aubree read blankets and didn't do much for her. I tried it, too, and ditto. Obviously women aren't objectified in it and there's no superhero-biz, and what I came up with is this:<BR/><BR/>(and this might not really be a good thing, I don't know, but it's how my brain works)<BR/><BR/>(maybe Aubree Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com